STOP PRESS: ShoZu to start charging!

Really Mobile’s favourite sharing application announced today that “going forward”, it will begin charging for its initial download…

There’s a lot going on today at the Really Mobile offices, what with the recent N97 shenanigans and the Mobile Web 2.0 Summit to cover, there’s a lot for us to get through. I myself have two (actually make that three) stories/features that I need to write up and to be honest, there really doesn’t seem to be enough time in the day!

How much will you pay?
Stay connected, but at what cost?

However, sometimes something comes along that simply bumps everything else down the line. Something so important that you simply have to drop everything and get the news up on the site. It happened a few weeks back with the Palm Pre, and today it’s happened again with ShoZu.

That’s right, ShoZu.

Really Mobile’s favourite sharing application announced today that “going forward”, it will begin charging for its initial download. The news, arriving via email this evening, sparks what would seem like a new attempt at monetization from them.
It goes:

Hello,

We’d like to start by saying thank you for using ShoZu. We have had the pleasure of communicating with several of you who have told us about your experiences using ShoZu and your thoughts for improving the service moving forward. That feedback from hundreds of ShoZu users has led us to develop a series of new features and changes to both the ShoZu user experience and the manner in which we distribute ShoZu. We wanted to let you know about a few of these updates.

You’ve got lots of flexibility in using ShoZu to upload photos and video. In addition to using the ShoZu mobile application, you can now use ShoZu to upload in new ways via:

  • picture messaging (MMS)
  • mobile email
  • PC and Mac Desktop application
  • any PC or Mac email client or webmail service

ShoZu’s mobile application takes the uploading experience to higher levels of functionality and two-way interactivity, with:

  • the ability to receive updates as well as read and reply to comments directly on your phone in near real-time
  • the ability to geo-tag uploads automatically
  • the ability to update your status, download feeds, and add tags and descriptions before or after uploading

Going forward, we will begin charging for the mobile application. If you’re already a ShoZu user, you’ll be happy to know that there’s no charge to continue using it. If you’re new to ShoZu’s mobile application, then there is a one-time charge to download the application and join thousands of happy ShoZu users.

ShoZu’s mobile application is available through our website, www.shozu.com and mobile website m.shozu.com, in Apple’s iTunes Store and will be available soon from other leading mobile application stores. We hope you continue to enjoy your ShoZu experience. We look forward to hearing your thoughts and suggestions.

Many Thanks,

The ShoZu team

So there you have it, ShoZu have made their move. As soon as I saw the news I threw it out onto Twitter to get some raw and instant reaction, the verdict?
Nicht Gut.

“Pixelpipe FTW!!!” – Ricky Cadden, Symbian Guru
Nice knowing you, ShoZu” – Carlo Longino, Mob Happy
“I’ve pretty much replaced it with Pixelpipe anyway” – Kevin Neely, Astro Turf Garden
What do they mean by “going forward”? Surely they mean “€5 on Ovi Store now” – Conor O’Neill, Louder Voice
Need it to be stable first guys” – Kip Hakes, KCJH Design

At the time of writing you can still download the app for free from http://m.shozu.com. The iPhone app store also currently lists the app as ‘FREE’, although this may change over the coming weeks. Within the Ovi Store, however, it’s a different story. A quick search returns no results, even though Conor, quoted above, reports that the app is already available for €5. See compare and contrast images below, (we can save the comment on Ovi Store for another day).

Where do we go from here?

This is a shrewd move from ShoZu. Timed with the launch of the Ovi Store, it seems like they wish to capitalise on the global roll out of Nokia’s much commented on venture into the application market. Fingers crossed it’ll pay off for them. We all love them and – in fairness – they do state quite clearly that:

If you’re already a ShoZu user, you’ll be happy to know that there’s no charge to continue using it.”

No doubt if you’re reading this, you’ve heard of ShoZu before. Maybe, just maybe you’ve downloaded the app already.
For you? No charge. Newbies coming in? €5 or, if my memory serves me rightly, Β£4 in the UK.

Pixelpipe have been mentioned as up and coming competitors and, what with their rather awesome Share Online integration, I’m not surprised.

Only time will tell who will win out.


Comments?
Thoughts?

Ladies and gentlemen the floor, is yours.



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151 thoughts on “STOP PRESS: ShoZu to start charging!”

  1. Pixelpipe forward your media, however if you don't have a host (Flickr or whatever) then they will host it for you. They could monetise that feature for a small fee, although since Twitpic etc are free I don't see how people would take it up. Unless Twitpic etc started charging too, I guess they will have to eventually, even if it's a fairly open Flickr-type thing.

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  2. We are free to consumers however do charge application developers and content providers to utilize our platform. They get to plug-in to the Social Web by developing just to one API and we provide the services and platform to make it happen. We charge simply based on bandwidth and storage utilized or revenue share so it’s a really cost effective solution since the developer get to remove the expense of development, servers and maintenance.

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  3. If you’re getting double posts make sure that you haven’t setup multiple service that post to the same place. The most common is to send to multiple sites that all post the result to Twitter, sending to Twitter from Pixelpipe and Twitpic will result in the same post twice. You can also add the same service multiple times, this is useful if you want to post to multiple accounts on for example Flickr however will result in a double post if their both configured to the same account. You can verify this setting under My Pipes.

    Tip: You can override your default destinations at the time of upload by use of Routing Tags, simply include the service name and we’ll send just to those destination @twitter, @facebook. You can customize the names and even setup groups by using the same name with multiple services eg. @family

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  4. I've used PixelPipe since I first got my G1 when they launched. I've never had any troubles with sharing my photos. I agree that the UI is bad – thankfully I've only ever had to look at the settings UI when initially setting it up. Since then it's been clear sailing.

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  5. I've used PixelPipe since I first got my G1 when they launched. I've never had any troubles with sharing my photos. I agree that the UI is bad – thankfully I've only ever had to look at the settings UI when initially setting it up. Since then it's been clear sailing.

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  6. I guess I'm the ones that fall into the not having installed Shozu on my handset. Honestly I've tried many times over, if it's not their website being down or the app freezing I've had no joy. Being an avid Flickr user Share Online does the job perfectly, and now with Pixelpipes integrated, sharing my photos to multiple services is a piece of cake.Would have liked to give Shozu another go, did try a few days ago honestly, could not setup Flickr account! Gave up and now it's payware – I'll stick with Pixelpipes.

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  7. I guess I'm the ones that fall into the not having installed Shozu on my handset. Honestly I've tried many times over, if it's not their website being down or the app freezing I've had no joy. Being an avid Flickr user Share Online does the job perfectly, and now with Pixelpipes integrated, sharing my photos to multiple services is a piece of cake.

    Would have liked to give Shozu another go, did try a few days ago honestly, could not setup Flickr account! Gave up and now it's payware – I'll stick with Pixelpipes.

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  8. What killed ShoZu for me was several things:1. The addition of bloat – ZuCasts, etc – they slowed the app down, and made it use far too much resources, which made it unusable on the original N95 and the N95-3. In fact, I was a huge supporter until then. I posted several times on their forums, and never got a clear answer as to why we couldn't get a 'lite' version for phones like that. 2. 10MB vid upload cap – you can't use ShoZu to upload videos larger than 10MB (this might have changed in the past 2 years, who knows). When I got my N95, I was creating even 20-60 second videos that were WAY larger than 10MB, but I couldn't use ShoZu to upload them. Again, posting on their forum didn't help, even when I offered a 'Plus' subscription version with a higher limit (paid monthly or so). No response (and clearly no action, that was in 2007).3. I switch phones – often. Being able to switch phones and not miss a beat is CRUCIAL, and everything I use thus far can do it – except ShoZu, as Kevin pointed out. Why would I pay for a service (and re-pay repeatedly as I get new phones) that's actually going to make my life harder?I'll agree, ShoZu's interface is nice, and the auto-upload without asking feature is handy, but I'm not going to pay to download an app that doesn't do things I want it to, and that comes from a company who clearly doesn't listen to their users.

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  9. What killed ShoZu for me was several things:

    1. The addition of bloat – ZuCasts, etc – they slowed the app down, and made it use far too much resources, which made it unusable on the original N95 and the N95-3. In fact, I was a huge supporter until then. I posted several times on their forums, and never got a clear answer as to why we couldn't get a 'lite' version for phones like that.

    2. 10MB vid upload cap – you can't use ShoZu to upload videos larger than 10MB (this might have changed in the past 2 years, who knows). When I got my N95, I was creating even 20-60 second videos that were WAY larger than 10MB, but I couldn't use ShoZu to upload them. Again, posting on their forum didn't help, even when I offered a 'Plus' subscription version with a higher limit (paid monthly or so). No response (and clearly no action, that was in 2007).

    3. I switch phones – often. Being able to switch phones and not miss a beat is CRUCIAL, and everything I use thus far can do it – except ShoZu, as Kevin pointed out. Why would I pay for a service (and re-pay repeatedly as I get new phones) that's actually going to make my life harder?

    I'll agree, ShoZu's interface is nice, and the auto-upload without asking feature is handy, but I'm not going to pay to download an app that doesn't do things I want it to, and that comes from a company who clearly doesn't listen to their users.

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  10. It will be difficult for ShoZu to convert existing free users to paid ones. Yes, it will remain free for current users, but when they get a new device, or cross whatever threshold ShoZu’s set up (version upgrade, or something, who knows), it appears they will have to pay. Perhaps 5 euros isn’t much, but when other services exist that do largely the same thing for free, it is a lot. What’s ShoZu’s differentiation that warrants the price, and more importantly, how will they communicate that to users alongside their free competitors, or the built-in capabilities of devices?

    This speaks to Dan’s point: on its own, 5 euros isn’t much. But it’s measured relative to the free competition. And I’ve never bought into the “it’s a service, they deserve to get compensated for their costs” argument — business models don’t exist in a vacuum. Just as ShoZu has a choice of business model and pricing, consumers have a choice of whether they want to buy in or not, too.

    This harkens back to the flap over the cost of the Gravity app. Seems like largely the same thing: if you don’t like the price, don’t pay it. Surely that’s the risk of any business, and we as consumers shouldn’t be compelled to give any business our money because they previously used a business model that saw their services provided for free.

    ShoZu does have some nice features over other similar apps and services. But it’s hard to see those features justifying the price.

    Also, in my personal experience, ShoZu’s performance has slipped over my last two devices (N82 and E71). Given that, I’m more likely to seek out alternative solutions than pay the cost whenever it comes due.

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  11. I agree that four quid isn't a lot for decent functionality. And let's face it, Shozu have been doing this for free for ages. It would seem a shame if a load of inferior pap suddenly appears on Ovi Store and starts taking money, yet a service you could describe as something of an S60 pioneer/leader is left trying to find other ways to generate income. If they can get a few quid for the app, they should go for it.

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  12. I agree that four quid isn't a lot for decent functionality. And let's face it, Shozu have been doing this for free for ages. It would seem a shame if a load of inferior pap suddenly appears on Ovi Store and starts taking money, yet a service you could describe as something of an S60 pioneer/leader is left trying to find other ways to generate income. If they can get a few quid for the app, they should go for it.

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  13. We integrate with the default camera and album applications on Android phones so you really never need to open our application other then setup (I recommend doing from a desktop web browser). Because of the clever way that Android allows applications to share capabilities you can actually upload from the Share menu through Pixelpipe from most any application that supports media.Just select Share from the Menu button, scroll down to Pixelpipe and we'll open a very pleasant dialog that allows you to set Title, Caption and Tags. Press Share to start the upload and then the Home key to put us in the background and you're done.The main application is really for users that want to upload groups of media (photo, video, audio) or text only posts to blogs and status services. I agree it's busy however it's not an easy task doing all we do on a phone.You should also have a look at our huge selection of desktop solutions as well, the same Pixelpipe account provides a very robust set of options for media upload for desktop and mobile. Give us another shot and get back to us with any feedback to android@pixelpipe.com.

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  14. We integrate with the default camera and album applications on Android phones so you really never need to open our application other then setup (I recommend doing from a desktop web browser). Because of the clever way that Android allows applications to share capabilities you can actually upload from the Share menu through Pixelpipe from most any application that supports media.

    Just select Share from the Menu button, scroll down to Pixelpipe and we'll open a very pleasant dialog that allows you to set Title, Caption and Tags. Press Share to start the upload and then the Home key to put us in the background and you're done.

    The main application is really for users that want to upload groups of media (photo, video, audio) or text only posts to blogs and status services. I agree it's busy however it's not an easy task doing all we do on a phone.

    You should also have a look at our huge selection of desktop solutions as well, the same Pixelpipe account provides a very robust set of options for media upload for desktop and mobile. Give us another shot and get back to us with any feedback to android@pixelpipe.com.

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  15. Hmm, we're not running the exact same firmware as you since we have the Google ION phones. We've been using ours almost exclusively and uploading loads of photos and videos without any issues so I'm a little confused why they're having problems. I'll see if we can get our hands on a Magic and get this sorted out.

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  16. Hmm, we're not running the exact same firmware as you since we have the Google ION phones. We've been using ours almost exclusively and uploading loads of photos and videos without any issues so I'm a little confused why they're having problems. I'll see if we can get our hands on a Magic and get this sorted out.

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  17. We are free to consumers however do charge application developers and content providers to utilize our platform. They get to plug-in to the Social Web by developing just to one API and we provide the services and platform to make it happen. We charge simply based on bandwidth and storage utilized or revenue share so it's a really cost effective solution since the developer get to remove the expense of development, servers and maintenance.

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  18. We are free to consumers however do charge application developers and content providers to utilize our platform. They get to plug-in to the Social Web by developing just to one API and we provide the services and platform to make it happen. We charge simply based on bandwidth and storage utilized or revenue share so it's a really cost effective solution since the developer get to remove the expense of development, servers and maintenance.

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  19. If you're getting double posts make sure that you haven't setup multiple service that post to the same place. The most common is to send to multiple sites that all post the result to Twitter, sending to Twitter from Pixelpipe and Twitpic will result in the same post twice. You can also add the same service multiple times, this is useful if you want to post to multiple accounts on for example Flickr however will result in a double post if their both configured to the same account. You can verify this setting under My Pipes.Tip: You can override your default destinations at the time of upload by use of Routing Tags, simply include the service name and we'll send just to those destination @twitter, @facebook. You can customize the names and even setup groups by using the same name with multiple services eg. @family

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  20. If you're getting double posts make sure that you haven't setup multiple service that post to the same place. The most common is to send to multiple sites that all post the result to Twitter, sending to Twitter from Pixelpipe and Twitpic will result in the same post twice. You can also add the same service multiple times, this is useful if you want to post to multiple accounts on for example Flickr however will result in a double post if their both configured to the same account. You can verify this setting under My Pipes.

    Tip: You can override your default destinations at the time of upload by use of Routing Tags, simply include the service name and we'll send just to those destination @twitter, @facebook. You can customize the names and even setup groups by using the same name with multiple services eg. @family

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  21. the 10MB/video upload cap is still in place. I too have asked for it to be raised, 50MB please ShoZu

    ok, so to up the ante

    I’ll pay 20 Euro for:
    1) non ninja πŸ™‚
    2) 50MB or higher video upload cap

    …Roland 28000 photos via ShoZu to flickr and hundreds more every week
    http://flickr.com/roland

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  22. It will be difficult for ShoZu to convert existing free users to paid ones. Yes, it will remain free for current users, but when they get a new device, or cross whatever threshold ShoZu's set up (version upgrade, or something, who knows), it appears they will have to pay. Perhaps 5 euros isn't much, but when other services exist that do largely the same thing for free, it is a lot. What's ShoZu's differentiation that warrants the price, and more importantly, how will they communicate that to users alongside their free competitors, or the built-in capabilities of devices? This speaks to Dan's point: on its own, 5 euros isn't much. But it's measured relative to the free competition. And I've never bought into the “it's a service, they deserve to get compensated for their costs” argument — business models don't exist in a vacuum. Just as ShoZu has a choice of business model and pricing, consumers have a choice of whether they want to buy in or not, too.This harkens back to the flap over the cost of the Gravity app. Seems like largely the same thing: if you don't like the price, don't pay it. Surely that's the risk of any business, and we as consumers shouldn't be compelled to give any business our money because they previously used a business model that saw their services provided for free.ShoZu does have some nice features over other similar apps and services. But it's hard to see those features justifying the price.

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  23. It will be difficult for ShoZu to convert existing free users to paid ones. Yes, it will remain free for current users, but when they get a new device, or cross whatever threshold ShoZu's set up (version upgrade, or something, who knows), it appears they will have to pay. Perhaps 5 euros isn't much, but when other services exist that do largely the same thing for free, it is a lot. What's ShoZu's differentiation that warrants the price, and more importantly, how will they communicate that to users alongside their free competitors, or the built-in capabilities of devices?

    This speaks to Dan's point: on its own, 5 euros isn't much. But it's measured relative to the free competition. And I've never bought into the “it's a service, they deserve to get compensated for their costs” argument — business models don't exist in a vacuum. Just as ShoZu has a choice of business model and pricing, consumers have a choice of whether they want to buy in or not, too.

    This harkens back to the flap over the cost of the Gravity app. Seems like largely the same thing: if you don't like the price, don't pay it. Surely that's the risk of any business, and we as consumers shouldn't be compelled to give any business our money because they previously used a business model that saw their services provided for free.

    ShoZu does have some nice features over other similar apps and services. But it's hard to see those features justifying the price.

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  24. the 10MB/video upload cap is still in place. I too have asked for it to be raised, 50MB please ShoZuok, so to up the anteI'll pay 20 Euro for:1) non ninja :-)2) 50MB or higher video upload cap…Roland 28000 photos via ShoZu to flickr and hundreds more every week http://flickr.com/roland

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  25. the 10MB/video upload cap is still in place. I too have asked for it to be raised, 50MB please ShoZu

    ok, so to up the ante

    I'll pay 20 Euro for:
    1) non ninja πŸ™‚
    2) 50MB or higher video upload cap

    …Roland 28000 photos via ShoZu to flickr and hundreds more every week
    http://flickr.com/roland

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  26. You guys just spammed my damn Twitter account!

    ….

    Hi Brett, thanks for the words.

    I no longer have the HTC Magic (but I am still having problems – which I’ll come to), I appreciate the detailed explanation. It’s not entirely clear from first installation that this is how you can share your photos.
    Maybe something to review given that I’m not the only one here who’s mentioned the UI issues?

    Since swapping my Magic with Ben however, I’ve tried to use Pixelpipe via Share Online on my Nokia. This morning when I tried to upload a 19 photos to flickr, and ONLY flickr – Pixelpipe didn’t pick up the ‘flickr’ tag on the photos and you guys spammed my Twitter account with 19 twitpics.

    Really, really not good.

    Was this an error or was there something else I was supposed to do before I hit ‘upload’ ?

    http://search.twitter.com/search?q=whatleydude+twitpic

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  27. As a snapshot of the competition right now I think you’re right – to a greater or lesser extent you can match Shozu’s features for free. …but with the exception of Nokia’s buit-in option I don’t think the others business models are sustainable, so they’ll either have to start charging or go under.

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  28. “it’s hard to see those features justifying the price.” — in that case, no, you wouldn’t buy it. Any product has to be worth the money, obviously.

    But an app you like that works better than a free alternative would be worth 5 euro, I’d think.

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  29. You guys just spammed my damn Twitter account!….Hi Brett, thanks for the words. I no longer have the HTC Magic (but I am still having problems – which I'll come to), I appreciate the detailed explanation. It's not entirely clear from first installation that this is how you can share your photos.Maybe something to review given that I'm not the only one here who's mentioned the UI issues?Since swapping my Magic with Ben however, I've tried to use Pixelpipe via Share Online on my Nokia. This morning when I tried to upload a 19 photos to flickr, and ONLY flickr – Pixelpipe didn't pick up the 'flickr' tag on the photos and you guys spammed my Twitter account with 19 twitpics. Really, really not good. Was this an error or was there something else I was supposed to do before I hit 'upload' ?http://search.twitter.com/search?q=whatleydude+

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  30. You guys just spammed my damn Twitter account!

    ….

    Hi Brett, thanks for the words.

    I no longer have the HTC Magic (but I am still having problems – which I'll come to), I appreciate the detailed explanation. It's not entirely clear from first installation that this is how you can share your photos.
    Maybe something to review given that I'm not the only one here who's mentioned the UI issues?

    Since swapping my Magic with Ben however, I've tried to use Pixelpipe via Share Online on my Nokia. This morning when I tried to upload a 19 photos to flickr, and ONLY flickr – Pixelpipe didn't pick up the 'flickr' tag on the photos and you guys spammed my Twitter account with 19 twitpics.

    Really, really not good.

    Was this an error or was there something else I was supposed to do before I hit 'upload' ?

    http://search.twitter.com/search?q=whatleydude+

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  31. As a snapshot of the competition right now I think you're right – to a greater or lesser extent you can match Shozu's features for free. …but with the exception of Nokia's buit-in option I don't think the others business models are sustainable, so they'll either have to start charging or go under.

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  32. As a snapshot of the competition right now I think you're right – to a greater or lesser extent you can match Shozu's features for free. …but with the exception of Nokia's buit-in option I don't think the others business models are sustainable, so they'll either have to start charging or go under.

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  33. “it's hard to see those features justifying the price.” — in that case, no, you wouldn't buy it. Any product has to be worth the money, obviously. But an app you like that works better than a free alternative would be worth 5 euro, I'd think.

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  34. “it's hard to see those features justifying the price.” — in that case, no, you wouldn't buy it. Any product has to be worth the money, obviously.

    But an app you like that works better than a free alternative would be worth 5 euro, I'd think.

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  35. James,

    As I explained briefly on twitter the Routing Tags are all prefixed with an @ character. We scan the body of the post and look for corresponding tags associated with your destinations. If we find a tag that’s been associated with one or more destinations we override your default services for upload and just send to those associated with the routing tag. So in brief you needed to include “@flickr” and not simply “flikr” as a tag to be utilized for routing.

    Here’s a few tips:

    – Turn off TwitPic and other services that send to Twitter as a default destination and only enable through routing tags

    – You can create groups by giving the same tag to multiple services eg. @friends, @status

    – We create a tag with the service name by default however you can rename and add additional tags eg. Facebook: @fb,social,all. Now I can include any three of those tags and Facebook will be included in the upload as well as any other service that includes these tags.

    Hopefully that makes things a bit more clear then my brief explanation on Twitter, customer support can be frustrating at a 140 char limit. Thanks for all of the feedback, we’re incorporating a few of your suggestions now to make things a bit more obvious.

    -Brett

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  36. The problem for me, though, Gabe is that the way ShoZu’s been performing, I’m not sure I like it all that much πŸ™‚

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  37. James,As I explained briefly on twitter the Routing Tags are all prefixed with an @ character. We scan the body of the post and look for corresponding tags associated with your destinations. If we find a tag that's been associated with one or more destinations we override your default services for upload and just send to those associated with the routing tag. So in brief you needed to include “@flickr” and not simply “flikr” as a tag to be utilized for routing.Here's a few tips:- Turn off TwitPic and other services that send to Twitter as a default destination and only enable through routing tags- You can create groups by giving the same tag to multiple services eg. @friends, @status- We create a tag with the service name by default however you can rename and add additional tags eg. Facebook: @fb,social,all. Now I can include any three of those tags and Facebook will be included in the upload as well as any other service that includes these tags.Hopefully that makes things a bit more clear then my brief explanation on Twitter, customer support can be frustrating at a 140 char limit. Thanks for all of the feedback, we're incorporating a few of your suggestions now to make things a bit more obvious.-Brett

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  38. James,

    As I explained briefly on twitter the Routing Tags are all prefixed with an @ character. We scan the body of the post and look for corresponding tags associated with your destinations. If we find a tag that's been associated with one or more destinations we override your default services for upload and just send to those associated with the routing tag. So in brief you needed to include “@flickr” and not simply “flikr” as a tag to be utilized for routing.

    Here's a few tips:

    – Turn off TwitPic and other services that send to Twitter as a default destination and only enable through routing tags

    – You can create groups by giving the same tag to multiple services eg. @friends, @status

    – We create a tag with the service name by default however you can rename and add additional tags eg. Facebook: @fb,social,all. Now I can include any three of those tags and Facebook will be included in the upload as well as any other service that includes these tags.

    Hopefully that makes things a bit more clear then my brief explanation on Twitter, customer support can be frustrating at a 140 char limit. Thanks for all of the feedback, we're incorporating a few of your suggestions now to make things a bit more obvious.

    -Brett

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  39. The problem for me, though, Gabe is that the way ShoZu's been performing, I'm not sure I like it all that much πŸ™‚

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  40. The problem for me, though, Gabe is that the way ShoZu's been performing, I'm not sure I like it all that much πŸ™‚

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  41. Yeah. ShoZu’s kind of bloated now. Hard to build a good app that people will buy, especially as everything is going to the browser.

    My statement was more: *if * there’s a good app, surely it’s worth the price of sandwich.

    As an example, I paid for Gravity (a good app, no complaints), but mostly I just use @dabr in the browser because it’s faster.

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  42. Yeah. ShoZu's kind of bloated now. Hard to build a good app that people will buy, especially as everything is going to the browser.My statement was more: *if * there's a good app, surely it's worth the price of sandwich.As an example, I paid for Gravity (a good app, no complaints), but mostly I just use @dabr in the browser because it's faster.

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